How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

How did Paul answer that question and why did he answer the one asking with “thou fool”?

1Co 15:35-56

But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? THOU FOOL, THAT WHICH THOU SOWEST IS NOT QUICKENED, EXCEPT IT DIE:

And that which thou sowest, THOU SOWEST NOT THAT BODY THAT SHALL BE,

BUT BARE GRAIN, it may chance OF WHEAT, or of SOME OTHER grain:

But GOD GIVETH IT A BODY as it pleases him, AND TO EVERY SEED HIS OWN BODY.

All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

There are also CELESTIAL BODIES, and BODIES TERRESTRIAL:

but THE GLORY OF THE CELESTIAL IS ONE, and THE GLORY OF THE TERRESTRIAL IS ANOTHER.

There is ONE GLORY OF THE SUN,

and ANOTHER GLORY OF THE MOON,

and ANOTHER GLORY OF THE STARS: for ONE STAR DIFFERTH FROM another star IN GLORY.

SO ALSO is THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD.

It is SOWN IN CORRUPTION; it is RAISED IN INCORRUPTION:

It is SOWN IN DISHONOUR; it is RAISED IN GLORY:

it is SOWN IN WEAKNESS; it is RAISED IN POWER:

It is SOWN A NATURAL BODY; it is RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY.

There is A NATURAL BODY, and there is A SPIRITUAL BODY.

And so it is written,

THE FIRST MAN ADAM was made A LIVING SOUL; THE LAST ADAM was made A QUICKENING SPIRIT.

Howbeit that was NOT FIRST which is SPIRITUAL, BUT THAT WHICH IS NATURAL; AND AFTERWARDS THAT WHICH IS SPIRITUAL.

The FIRST MAN is OF THE EARTH, earthy: the SECOND MAN is THE LORD FROM HEAVEN.

AS IS THE EARTHY, such are they also that are earthy: and AS IS THE HEAVENLY, such are they also that are heavenly.

And AS WE HAVE BORNE THE IMAGE OF THE EARTHY, WE SHALL ALSO BEAR THE IMAGE OF THE HEAVENLY.

Now this I say, brethren, that FLESH AND BLOOD cannot inherit the kingdom of God; NEITHER DOTH CORRUPTION INHERIT INCORRUPTION.

Behold, I SHEW YOU A MYSTERY; WE SHALL NOT ALL SLEEP, BUT WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for THE TRUMP SHALL SOUND, and THE DEAD SHALL BE RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE, AND WE SHALL BE CHANGED.

For THIS CORRUPTION MUST PUT ON INCORRUPTION,

and THIS MORTAL MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITY.

SO WHEN THIS CORRUPTION shall have put on INCORRUPTION, and THIS MORTAL shall have put on IMMORTALITY,

THEN shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP IN VICTORY.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Just as ALL FLESH is not the same FLESH; there is A NATURAL BODY and there is A SPIRITUAL BODY.

That which is BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH and that which is BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT.

John 3:1-8

There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man BE BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN OF WATER and of THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That which is BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH; and that which is BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so [houto = in this way] is [esti = is] every one that is born [pas o gennao = every one procreated] of [ek = from/out of] the [tou = the] Spirit [pneuma = spirit].

Going by the definitions given in my concordance for the words presented in the latter part of the verse [in brackets above] it seems to me that this part of the verse should read more like “in this way is every one born of the spirit”. As it is true that it is BY THE SPIRIT that is like the wind which “bloweth where it listeth” THAT WE ARE BORN AGAIN (born OF THE SPIRIT).

There is an OUTWARD man and there is an INWARD man:

2Co 4:8-18

We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about IN THE BODY the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest IN OUR BODY.

For we WHICH LIVE are alway DELIVERED UNTO DEATH for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest IN OUR MORTAL FLESH.

So then DEATH WORKETH IN US, BUT LIFE IN YOU.

We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God. For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which ARE SEEN are TEMPORAL; but the things which ARE NOT SEEN are ETERNAL.

We do not desire to be UNCLOTHED, but CLOTHED UPON:

2Co 5:1-4 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, WE HAVE a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring TO BE CLOTHED UPON with our house which is from heaven: If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: NOT FOR THAT WE WOULD BE UNCLOTHED, but CLOTHED UPON, that MORTALITY might be swallowed up OF LIFE.

It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth, THE FLESH PROFITS NOTHING.

John 6:63  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Can we hear what THE SPIRIT is saying to the churches?

1Co 15:35-36 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? THOU FOOL, that which thou sowest IS NOT QUICKENED, EXCEPT IT DIE:

That which is sown IS NOT QUICKENED, EXCEPT IT DIE. It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing

These are spiritual truths, not natural/carnal ones. We must PUT OFF the old man and PUT ON immortality and incorruption (Christ). We must be “clothed” so that we won’t be “found naked”.

It is THIS MORTAL that must PUT ON immortality; THIS CORRUPTIBLE that must PUT ON incorruption. We must be BORN AGAIN, not of corruptible seed but of INCORRUPTIBLE ((by the word of God)).

His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are THE CHILDREN of God, but those who walk NOT AFTER THE FLESH but AFTER THE SPIRIT are THE SONS of God, who have received not just THE EARNEST OF THE SPIRIT ((but)) THE SPIRIT OF ADOPTION by which they cry ABBA, FATHER.

When we FIRST believe we are sealed by the Holy Spirit OF PROMISE and we are given “the earnest of the spirit”. That is NOT “the adoption of SONS”. Those who are “babes” in Christ have “the earnest of the spirit” and they are “YET CARNAL”. They have not yet gone on unto perfection. They have not been delivered of THE CHILD and had Christ formed IN THEM.

We do not start out as SONS, we start out as CHILDREN and the heir so long as he is A CHILD differs nothing from A SERVANT.

Gal 4:1-7 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is A CHILD, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. Even so we, WHEN WE WERE CHILDREN, were in bondage under the elements of the world: But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption OF SONS. And because ye are SONS, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but A SON; and IF A SON, then an heir of God through Christ.

It is not until Christ is formed IN US that we have the spirit OF HIS SON in our hearts by which we cry ABBA, FATHER.

1 John 3 tells us that NOW we ARE SONS, but is that what it really says?

1Jo 3:1-3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons (teknon = CHILD) of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons (teknon = CHILD) of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

It is not until CHRIST “appears” that we shall be “like him”. We become HIS SON ((AT THE LENGTH)), not when we are first sealed by the Holy Spirit OF PROMISE. Not all go on unto perfection and pass from death unto life (attaining THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, through THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST).

Pro 29:21  He that delicately bringeth up his servant FROM A CHILD SHALL HAVE HIM BECOME HIS SON AT THE LENGTH.

Just as there is a difference between A CHILD and A SON, there is a difference between being CARNALLY MINDED and being SPIRITUALLY MINDED and between receiving THE EARNEST OF THE SPIRIT and receiving THE ADOPTION OF SONS:

Rom 8:5-25 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because THE CARNAL MIND is ENMITY AGAINST GOD: for it is not subject to the law of God,neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But IF the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken YOUR MORTAL BODIES by his spirit THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, THEY ARE THE SONS OF GOD. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received THE SPIRIT OF ADOPTION, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. [There is a difference between the “children” who have the “earnest” of the Spirit and who are “heirs” and subjected “IN HOPE” and the “SONS” who have received “the Spirit OF ADOPTION” (the Spirit of Christ IN THEM), whereby they cry ABBA, FATHER!.] THE SPIRIT ITSELF ((beareth witness)) WITH OUR SPIRIT, ((that we are the children of God)): And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the EARNEST expectation OF THE CREATURE waiteth for the manifestation OF THE SONS of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, ((but by reason of him)) who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have THE FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, WAITING FOR THE ADOPTION, to wit, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY. For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Not only does the whole creation “groaneth and travaileth”, so also do those who HAVE “the firstfruits” or “the earnest” of the spirit. We WAIT “IN HOPE” (the hope of ETERNAL LIFE) for “the redemption of our bodies”, which is “the ADOPTION OF SONS” which comes through the Holy Spirit.

We don’t wait until after we die (physically), we wait until Christ is formed IN US, until we are BORN AGAIN, until we receive THE ADOPTION OF SONS.

Col 1:27  …… Christ IN YOU, the hope of glory:

We wait until our hour has come TO BE DELIVERED OF THE CHILD.

This is exactly what Christ told his disciples that they would go through:

John 16:19-22

Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?

Verily, verily, I say unto you, That YE SHALL WEEP AND LAMENT, but the world shall rejoice: and YE SHALL BE SORROWFUL, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.

A WOMAN WHEN SHE IS IN TRAVAIL HATH SORROW, because her hour is come: but AS SOON AS SHE IS DELIVERED OF THE CHILD, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

It is this that Paul experience himself:

1Co 13:9-13

For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

When I was A CHILD, I spake AS A CHILD, I understood AS A CHILD, I thought AS A CHILD: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I KNOW even as also I am known.

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

And what Paul went though again as he waited to see this happen in others:

Gal 4:19 My little CHILDREN, of whom I travail in birth AGAIN until Christ be formed IN YOU,

We WAIT “for His appearing”; we WAIT for “the revelation of Jesus Christ”. And when He “shall appear” (Christ is formed IN US) “we have passed from death unto life”. No more the children of darkness, no more the children of disobedience, no more the children of wrath, but CHILDREN (uihos=SONS) OF THE DAY, CHILDREN (uihos=SONS) OF THE LIGHT, CHILDREN (uihos=SONS) OF THE RESURRECTION. No more CHILDREN (who differ nothing from a servant), but SONS!! The CALLED AND CHOSEN AND FAITHFUL!!!

All Blessings in Christ!

Christine

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About Christine

My name is Christine and since my favorite past-time, the one that I find the most fulfilling, is studying the scriptures and seeking to know and understand "the deep things of God", I have created this blog as a place to not only post my own bible studies but as a way to connect with others who are are also seeking the Lord and the Truth. I've posted some of my studies on other websites and haven't yet decided if I will post them here, as well, or if I will just post future blogs/studies here. We'll see. Thanks for stopping by and please do so again... maybe after I get something posted. :) ALL BLESSINGS IN CHRIST!!
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2 Responses to How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

  1. David Larsen says:

    Hello Christine
    I really like your web site and very much enjoy what you have to say.
    A very rare and insightful look into what are Father is doing in this hour to bring about the salavation of all men.

  2. Hi David, I’ve just been moving some of my older studies from MySpace over to WordPress. That’s why there were so many posted in one day. You found them fast! 🙂 Thank you so much for reading them and leaving a kind comment.

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